Different output with newest version
Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 7:22 pm
I recently downloaded the newest version of Presence (13.12), and opened up a .pa3 file from a previous project I ran in 2018 on version 11.3. Everything opened fine, my data looked ok, and the last models I ran were showing up just as I had left them. When I go to run a new model, I noticed I was getting SEs of 0 for everything. So I ran a previous model, and just changed the name. I used the retrieve model option to make sure it was exactly the same. With the output, I get the same values for everything (AIC, w, parameter estimates, etc) except the SEs and CIs (all set so that SEs=0).
I looked more closely and noticed a couple of different things with the output. In v11.3, I get this:
But in v13.12, I get this:
The number of states have changed, both were ran as simple single season.
Other different output in case that's helpful:
v11.3
v13.12
and also this statement that I have not seen in the previous version:
Apologies if this is not a software/glitch issue, but I was wondering if something has changed between the versions where perhaps now I have to change how I enter/run the models, or if there is just some sort of error happening. I tried running other pa3 files from the previous version and I'm getting the same issue. Thanks in advance for any guidance.
I looked more closely and noticed a couple of different things with the output. In v11.3, I get this:
********* Input Data summary *******
Number of sites = 162
Number of sampling occasions = 4
Number of states = 0
Number of missing observations = 0
Data checksum = 15524
But in v13.12, I get this:
********* Input Data summary *******
Number of sites = 162
Number of sampling occasions = 4
Number of states = 2
Number of missing observations = 0
The number of states have changed, both were ran as simple single season.
Other different output in case that's helpful:
v11.3
Untransformed Estimates of coefficients for covariates (Beta's)
======================================================================
estimate std.error
A1 psi : -0.354876 0.750110
A2 psi.for : 0.957810 0.422500
B1 P[1] : 7.145611 2.476664
B2 P[1].date : -1.091891 0.290107
v13.12
Untransformed Estimates of coefficients for covariates (Beta's)
======================================================================
estimate std.error
A1 psi.a1 : -0.354876 0.000000
A2 psi.for : 0.957810 0.000000
B1 P[4].b1 : 7.145611 0.000000
B2 P[1].date : -1.091891 0.000000
and also this statement that I have not seen in the previous version:
attempt 0/0 (iv= 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000...), -2loglike= 200.4056, optmiz time:0.0 min.
0 random initial value vectors attempted:
Initial values:
0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000
Apologies if this is not a software/glitch issue, but I was wondering if something has changed between the versions where perhaps now I have to change how I enter/run the models, or if there is just some sort of error happening. I tried running other pa3 files from the previous version and I'm getting the same issue. Thanks in advance for any guidance.